SS： I understand why you would support Trump burying TPP, because, obviously it's very unnerving when a huge deal like that excludes a huge country like yours from the region. But China has no devised a Free Trade Pact for the region itself - it's called the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership - let me ask you think, is Beijing ready to welcome the US to become a part of it?

蘇菲·謝瓦納茲：我理解為什么中國贊同特朗普退出TPP，顯然中國作為在亞太地區(qū)舉足輕重的國家，被這樣一個重大協(xié)定排除在外肯定會感到不安。但中國也在該地區(qū)發(fā)起了一個自由貿(mào)易協(xié)定——地區(qū)全面經(jīng)濟伙伴關(guān)系協(xié)定（RCEP）——請問，對此中國歡迎美國的加入嗎？

WW：Of course, I think if the U.S. can join, can participate, we will welcome them. Nowadays the core value of Chinese foreign policy is "win-win", an open, inclusive. So, anyone who wants China's initiative, China welcomes. For example, the biggest new initiative, One Belt-One Road, we welcome any country to join the One Belt-One Road initiative. So, I think, Russia did a right now, but the U.S. now still hesitates to join or not. This is very interesting.

王文：當(dāng)然，我們非常歡迎美國的加入。當(dāng)今中國外交政策的核心價值是雙贏、開放、包容。所以我們歡迎所有國家加入中國發(fā)起的協(xié)定。例如我們現(xiàn)在最重大的倡議——“一帶一路”，中國歡迎所有國家加入。我認(rèn)為俄羅斯積極參與的行為值得肯定，而美國至今仍搖擺不定。

SS：Also, I wanted to ask you about China that has always been content with being a leader of its own region, but right now, we're seeing China building the Silk Road infrastructure project and also investing so much in Africa - so is this tradition changing, is Beijing ready to seek more influence abroad?

蘇菲·謝瓦納茲：另一個問題是，中國一直習(xí)慣于在地區(qū)充當(dāng)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)角色，但是現(xiàn)在我們看到中國正在建設(shè)絲綢之路基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施項目，在非洲大量投資，這是否意味著中國正在打破傳統(tǒng)，謀求更廣泛的國際影響力？

WW：Of course, China is second largest economy and in 10 years China will be the largest economy in the world, and also in 3 or 5 years China will the largest consumption market in the world. So China, of course it wants to provide international, public good the world. In the past rest of the world underestimated China's contribution to the global governance, so 3 years ago, President Xi launched a new initiatives, as you mentioned, a Silk Road initiative, or One Belt One Road initiative. It means that as a new great power, Chinese want to contribute to the world with peaceful, with "win-win" principles, without war, without conflict. I think, it's a good thing for the world.

王文：當(dāng)然，中國是第二大經(jīng)濟體，未來十年中國將成為世界最大的經(jīng)濟體，未來3到5年中國將成為世界最大的消費市場。所以，中國當(dāng)然希望給國際社會提供更多的公共產(chǎn)品。過去，世界低估了中國對全球治理的貢獻(xiàn)。三年前，習(xí)近平主席發(fā)起了“一帶一路”倡議，這意味著中國作為新興大國，希望在和平、雙贏、避免沖突和戰(zhàn)爭的前提下為世界作出貢獻(xiàn)。

SS： Finally, really shortly, I am going to ask you about Trump - because you can't really tell what Trump wants from China, because one day he says one thing, another day he says another thing - do you think that's part of his strategy, to be unpredictable, and if yes, is this working?

蘇菲·謝瓦納茲：最后我想簡短地問您一個關(guān)于特朗普的問題，特朗普對中國的態(tài)度一直不甚明確、朝令夕改，您是否認(rèn)為這種不可預(yù)測性其實是他的一種策略，如果是的話，對中國起作用嗎？

WW： Trump is a very interesting guy, and now he is studying, he's learning how to be a President of the U.S., and he's a smart guy to learn something. So, I think, we cannot analyze Trump according to election campaign period. We should give Trump enough time to learn, to study as a President, so I think that China has confidence to engage with Trump and to tell Trump how this deal will benefit to the U.S.' core interests in the future. I think cooperation between U.S. and China, cooperation between U.S. and Russia will a benefit to U.S. interests. This is my viewpoint.

王文：特朗普這個人很有趣，他非常擅長學(xué)習(xí)，現(xiàn)在他正在學(xué)習(xí)如何做一個美國總統(tǒng)。所以我認(rèn)為不應(yīng)該根據(jù)競選時期的言論來分析特朗普，我們需要給特朗普學(xué)習(xí)的時間。中國有信心與特朗普打交道，讓他明白什么符合美國的長遠(yuǎn)核心利益。中美合作、美俄合作符合美國的利益，這是我的觀點。

SS： Dr. Wang, thank you very much for this interview, we wish you best of luck.

蘇菲·謝瓦納茲：王博士，非常感謝您接受我們的采訪，祝您一切順利。